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April 2, 2011 12:49 PM
Headaches are a normal part of withdrawal. It only proves that I was addicted to sugar and carbs and my body wants what it wants. I'm choosing instead to give it what it needs. Trust me I have plenty of carbs stored on my tummy right now to survive 2 weeks.
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April 2, 2011 12:52 PM
Good for you Beth!

I did Atkins about 10 years ago and lost over 50 lbs (and kept it off until very recently). It really worked well for me. The first 2 weeks were hard, but every day it got a little bit easier. I had more energy, slept better and for fewer hours each night, and was generally in a better mood than I had been in years.

I too got headaches, but It was from the caffeine withdrawal. I was used to drinking sugary sodas all day and cut them out completely. Once I realized that was the problem I learned to love diet drinks and the headaches went away. I didn't drink nearly as many as before, maybe 1 a day, but it really helped.

also, the sugar and starch cravings drove me crazy, but after 2-3 weeks I didn't want them anymore. If I started craving chocolate, 1 Hershey's Kiss would do the trick - it was awesome!

Hang in there! It really does get easier, I promise!
April 2, 2011 12:56 PM
Don't let people thinking that they know better, give you another headache! But if it does, take it from a chronic migraine sufferer, Excedrin is the best! Probably because it contains all three common pain killers (asprin, acetametaphine, ibuprofen) as well as caffine!
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April 2, 2011 1:06 PM
My own experience with Atkins was not a headache near the beginning, but a general feeling of weakness and light-headedness about 3-4 weeks in that made me give it up. I lost around 15-20 pounds in that timeframe, but I could not have sustained the diet, and I gained the weight back.

I don't claim to be an expert, and I realize everyone is a little different. But, if people feel they suffered during their Atkins experience, or were taught at school that it's unhealthy, they're not exactly attacking you. They think your headaches are a result of you eating the wrong things. It's an opinion. You asked for advice. You can take it or leave it.
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April 2, 2011 1:15 PM
When my BIL went low/no sugar he got headaches so bad he started blacking out, and ended up in hospital several times being checked for brain tumours. He was also banned from driving due to the blackouts. As soon as he started eating normally again, he went back to normal.

I just think common sense suggests that if you are eating too much sugar and processed carbs then of course you should cut down, but cutting them out almost completely is a bit overkill. I don't eat any wheat, potatoes, rice, no starchy food, but my carbs on here are always around 100 just from fruit and vegetables, which is less than half what it should be, but still 5 times more than the Atkins diet allows.
April 2, 2011 1:17 PM
I'm very sorry for your losses. I was actually told my whole life that I would never be able to have kids so imagine my surprise when a month after the worst event in my life I discovered I was pregnant. My son is a miracle and it was amazing that God took such a horrible event and gave me something so special. I never especially wanted kids, but now that I have my son I wouldn't give him back if you paid me. I have been hypothyroid for my whole life and wasn't diagnosed with PCOS until 2007, but I think my doctors always knew it was there and never tested me for it. My son was born in 2004. He is seven now and even though he has some problems himself (hypothyroid and autism) he is amazing to me. I actually have headaches because of my metformin that I take, so I have used all the pressure point things. Mine are severe migraines that take me out for days at a time. It has actually gotten worse this past week because I cut out all diet pop and am drinking only water and a little grape juice each day. The juice helps me get down my horse pills without gagging.
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April 2, 2011 1:36 PM
I wonder if you all would recommend a drug addict to continue drugs just b/c they got a headache during withdrawal. There's only one way to kick an addiction: cold turkey. And Atkins does not recommend 20 carbs a day. They recommend 20 NET carbs a day for the first 2 weeks. That means I'm eating at least 2 times that amount in total carbs. And this is only for 2 weeks.

Obviously, as recommended by Atkins and my doctor, if I begin to have extreme reactions to the diet, I will discontinue. I definitely wouldn't go past a mild headache every once in awhile that I can't cure with a simple fix. Not trying to torture myself, people. LOL.

Also, I did not ask for any opinion on what people thought about WHY I'm having headaches. I simply asked how to make them go away. Telling me how you feel about low-carb diets doesn't really make my headache any better. The only person who I felt attacked by was Ral. Everyone else stated an opinion with limited information. My responses were an attempt to give them more information so they could better understand my situation.

When you are still studying a specific subject, you may think you know everything, but the big picture has not been formed yet. There is not only 1 way to get things done. That's not an insult...it's just the truth. I don't like for someone to tell me that their way is the way I should do it or I'm essentially making bad choices. It shows a lack of maturity or wisdom and not only am I unlikely to take that advice or respect that person, but I'm going to continue to share MY opinions on MY life choices as well.
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April 2, 2011 1:38 PM
lcouter, I'm also prone to bad migraines. Maybe that's why a mild headache is not that big of a deal to me. I find that extra strength rapid release tylenol works best for me, but I'm not a huge fan of taking medicines if I can avoid them.

Thanks for the encouraging story. I know that my time will come in God's time. :-)
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April 2, 2011 1:47 PM
Wow. You seem awfully, awfully defensive. You did realize there are a lot of people, including doctors (although you say yours is on-board) who condemn the Adkins diet, correct? This should not have been a surprise to you that people would suggest you reconsider. It is not an "attack" as you claim, but advice. Isn't that why you came here? Advice?
April 2, 2011 1:59 PM
Once again, I'm not saying people. It was one person. I welcome intelligent conversation. The way I was addressed was not from a person who legitimately cares about my health or my choices. They just wanted to criticize them. Advice sure, Criticism...not so much.

Yes I realize a lot of people condemn Atkins. If I didn't realize how much so before this post, I do now. And trust me I won't make the mistake of asking for help from any of the "open-minded" sources on MFP in the future. Bummer that we can't just be encouraging of each other to reach the goal. If you see me eating too little calories to sustain myself, please let me know. But I'm not starving myself.

I often tend to go a different route than everyone else, so I'm okay sticking out like a sore thumb. But geez people, you'd think people would understand my desire to be spoken to as an adult making adult decisions for herself. You'd also think that a few more questions would be in order to understand before being so quick to judge my personal decision.
Edited by SweetBeth On April 2, 2011 2:00 PM
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April 2, 2011 2:40 PM
The thing that angers me is the people who condemn Atkins the most are the ones who understand it the least. People hear "Atkins" or "low-carb" and immediately freak out. ZOMG NO CARBS! YOU'RE GONNA DESTROY YOUR KIDNEYS! That's not how the diet works.

For the first two weeks, you can have as much protein and fat as you want, but only 20g of carbs a day, in the form of fruits, vegetables, and whole grains. Oh sure, in the first few days you go crazy with the sausage and Velveeta, but believe me, you get really sick of all that fat really quickly. You then start looking for leaner protein sources. The severe carb restriction of the first two weeks is important for two reasons: a) going cold turkey on sugar and junk food is the best way to rid yourself of cravings, and b) you lose weight quickly in those first 2 weeks, which encourages you to keep it up.

After the first two weeks, you slowly add more and more carbs (once again in the form of fruits, vegetables, and whole grains, not Doritos and frappucinos). When your weight stabolizes and you're neither gaining or losing, you know you've hit the sweet spot and that's the way you need to eat for the REST OF YOUR LIFE. This is not a quick fix. This is not temporary. It is a lifestyle change.
April 2, 2011 2:45 PM
You said your body does not react normally to sugar... are you diabetic or something in that line?
That's my area that I love, and probably should but have not cut back on... sugars...
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April 2, 2011 2:49 PM
Wow... A lot of defensive folks on here. I say do what's best for you! I do not have any advice on the headaches though. I do not suffer them.

Personally, I enjoy a good variety of healthy eating, including plenty of complex carbs to fuel amazing workouts. I am about at my goal weight so I have shifted into lowing the fat percentage and increasing the muscle mas. Lookout sixpack abs by this summer.
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April 2, 2011 5:18 PM
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So I woke up this morning with a splitting headache. It is Day 3 of Induction on Atkins and my body is FIGHTING to get more carbs and sugar. The mild headache started yesterday afternoon, but it is really BAD today. I don't feel like doing anything. Any home remedies that won't bust my diet?


Chammomile tea or green tea. It will pass.
April 2, 2011 5:22 PM
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When my BIL went low/no sugar he got headaches so bad he started blacking out, and ended up in hospital several times being checked for brain tumours. He was also banned from driving due to the blackouts. As soon as he started eating normally again, he went back to normal.

I just think common sense suggests that if you are eating too much sugar and processed carbs then of course you should cut down, but cutting them out almost completely is a bit overkill. I don't eat any wheat, potatoes, rice, no starchy food, but my carbs on here are always around 100 just from fruit and vegetables, which is less than half what it should be, but still 5 times more than the Atkins diet allows.


The 20 grasm of carbs is for a mere 2 weeks to detox and get rid of the sugar and starch cravings, then more and more veggies are added in, then fruit, then nuts, alcohol, beans / legumes, dairy and then grains.

When someone can answer the question of what is unhealthy about eating proteins and green leafy veggies, then I will change my stance on low carb, until then I will continue to urge and encourage each and every one that says Atkins is unhealthy to actually read and research the LIFESTYLE CHANGE PLAN.

Have a good night!!
April 2, 2011 5:57 PM
This has got nothing to do with your headache ...

Have you tried Canadian bacon? It's leaner and slightly less processed than the sausage would be and pretty tasty, IMO. You could heat it up in some olive oil for healthy fats.
Pork tenderloin is a nice alternative too.

I don't follow any type of diet in particular but I do try to keep processed carbs to a minimum. I feel better for it.
Even being as heavy as I am, my sugar levels are excellent as are my cholesterol stats. Getting rid of most processed foods is the reason, I believe, NOT fat.
I'm fat 'cause I eat too much! drinker

Anyway, good luck with your program and hope you don't suffer any more headaches during the withdrawal process. flowerforyou
April 2, 2011 5:58 PM
A great resource is a website run by the guy who did the movie Fat Head (it's on Netflix Instant). He's done a lot of actual research (instead of just accepting what the FDA tells you) by reading those ridiculous studies. He has two kids and he talks about his frustration at the schools serving kids government approved breaded chicken nuggets, mashed potatoes, skim chocolate milk (no fat but lots of sugar), and peaches in a sweet, thick syrup and then wondering why ADD and other diseases have increased so much in the 30 years since the government decided to tell people what they should eat (EAT CARBS -- NOT FAT!! GAH!!) And he's super upset when the various diabetes group push a high carb diet onto diabetes (JUST DON"T EAT FAT!!) when it's a well known fact that carbs raise the blood sugar level to higher levels than fat or protein.

Wish I could help you if you get any more headaches. Not sure how people seem to know that it's because of the low carb. I get headaches whether I'm eating high or low carb -- usually when I don't drink enough water or if I'm on the computer too long. I usually just turn off all the lights and rest in a quiet, dark room until it goes away. Obviously that's not always an option, but it helps.
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April 2, 2011 6:02 PM
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Okay, I definitely don't need to "do more research"-- I'm studying Nutrition in University, they teach us a thing or two about properly eating and fueling your body. I never said you were adding salt to your diet or eating potato chips and ice cream--- but the "junk" I was referring to-- the JImmy Dean sausage, Velveeta Cheese, the Atkins brand stuff?? All that is either high in fat, high in salt or both, not to mention that the velveeta cheese and the Aktins foods are highly processed "fake" food.

You asked about remedies for your headaches; I responded because the fuel that you give your body is intrinsically tied to the way that your body will feel. Don't eat properly and you won't feel great. Just saying.
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agreed! why treat a headache when you can prevent it. your body is giving you a pretty strong message here
April 2, 2011 6:15 PM
Thanks for the support everyone! I just made this amazing pizza with a cauliflower egg crust. All veggies and fresh mozzarella. It was so yummy!!! I think I can get used to this, once I just relearn how to cook! I'm excited to learn how to use flaxseed!

And so far no more headaches since breakfast. I guess I just needed to get up and get moving...and eat something! :-)

I'm not really looking to replace the sausage b/c to be honest...I'm not a huge fan of pork. I'll be happy when it's out of my fridge! I did buy some turkey bacon, but I doubt I'll eat it too often. I have a feeling I'm going to get sick of eggs QUICKLY! So hopefully, I'll find some other breakfast foods.

Well I think I'm kinda done talking on this thread. I feel that I've expressed my thoughts and gotten some great ideas and encouragement for getting through the withdrawal period. I wish you ALL the best in your fitness and health endeavors!
  5777326
April 2, 2011 6:30 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Okay, I definitely don't need to "do more research"-- I'm studying Nutrition in University, they teach us a thing or two about properly eating and fueling your body. I never said you were adding salt to your diet or eating potato chips and ice cream--- but the "junk" I was referring to-- the JImmy Dean sausage, Velveeta Cheese, the Atkins brand stuff?? All that is either high in fat, high in salt or both, not to mention that the velveeta cheese and the Aktins foods are highly processed "fake" food.

You asked about remedies for your headaches; I responded because the fuel that you give your body is intrinsically tied to the way that your body will feel. Don't eat properly and you won't feel great. Just saying.
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agreed! why treat a headache when you can prevent it. your body is giving you a pretty strong message here


So if you get a headache on a regular carb diet, does that mean that you should stop eating carbs? As though there is only one cause for all headaches?
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April 2, 2011 6:38 PM
lol wow.
Edited by That_Girl On April 2, 2011 6:40 PM
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April 2, 2011 7:42 PM
When I gave up my daily pop and snack cakes addiction, I got a headache every afternoon for a whole week. During that time, I was daydreaming about drinking a giant neverending milk shake or deep fried twinkies. It was CRAZY how I felt. I can't imagine cutting back carbs so dramatically and how my body would freak out. Atkins works for some people and not for others. My doctor advised me against any diet that extremely cut back or eliminated any food groups completely was something that I should avoid... so Atkins isn't something I'd do personally.

I do think there's something to "carb withdrawal" because I craved sugar like a crack fiend twitching for his next score. Hopefully Atkins works well for you. Most people I know who did it end up quitting and gained all their weight back.
April 3, 2011 3:22 AM
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Wow. You seem awfully, awfully defensive. You did realize there are a lot of people, including doctors (although you say yours is on-board) who condemn the Adkins diet, correct? This should not have been a surprise to you that people would suggest you reconsider. It is not an "attack" as you claim, but advice. Isn't that why you came here? Advice?


yes, advice for a headache, LOL.
April 3, 2011 3:24 AM
slightly off topic, but I thought the atkins products like the snack bars weren't good for your induction period. I remember reading it on one of their forums, but its been a while.
April 3, 2011 3:34 AM
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So I woke up this morning with a splitting headache. It is Day 3 of Induction on Atkins and my body is FIGHTING to get more carbs and sugar. The mild headache started yesterday afternoon, but it is really BAD today. I don't feel like doing anything. Any home remedies that won't bust my diet?


Honey, pain is the body's way of telling you it's experiencing harm. You have a splitting headache because you need nutrients - specifically carbs. I tried Atkins twice and both times I had three day migraines. If you have a two day headache that is getting worse, you are not doing something good for your body. Your body is reacting to this as an attack, rather than a healthy shift in diet.

I ran my experience with Atkins by my doctor and she gave me that look - the one moms give their kids when they do something really, really foolish. "Why would you do that to yourself twice?" she said. "Once wasn't bad enough? Any diet that says you can't eat fruit is bad for you. Period." Then she showed me the scientific studies on what Atkins does to your metabolism and your brain. Did you know long term carb deprivation causes holes to form in your brain? Literally.

Bottom line - eat some fruit and brown rice. Choose low glycemic index foods, not highly processed carbs. Take a few vitamins and a banana to up your potassium and prevent muscle cramps and get some good exercise. (I bet you can't exercise while your in pain, right?) And put an ice pack on your head.

Feel better soon. Remember, this isn't about a diet. It's about healthy lifestyle. We're here with you!
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