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March 28, 2011 6:26 AM
A good friend of mine incorporated this rule in early January and has lost a lot of weight. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this.
Also, would the results be the same if you only eat carbs with one meal, for example just have pasta at dinner time but no other carbs throughout the day? It would be dificult for me to cut out pasta, rice, etc., after 3 PM because those are staples in my husband and my dinners. Any advice or tips would be most appreciated!!!
March 28, 2011 6:32 AM
Cutting carbs would work for losing weight fast but in my openion it is not realistic and not sustainable. I tried the South Beach diet and I lost the weight but when I started adding the carbs back I regained more than I lost. My advice is to do by avoiding fast food and processed food , and eating more vegies and fruits. Good luck!
March 29, 2011 6:34 AM
That's pretty much what I thought, too - once I go back to a normal diet of having carbs at dinner, the weight would just come back! Thanks for your reply. smile
March 29, 2011 6:59 AM
With any "diet" especially a low carb diet, you will gain the weight back, it is not sustainable. There is no science to support it. most of these low carb diets got very popular quick because of the drastic weightloss people saw in the first few weeks but if you follow these people over time, almost none maintain the weightloss because it is not realistic. you shouldn't be on a diet, but rather a new lifestyle, something you can live eseentially for the rest of your life (maybe once you reach your goal you are able to sway a bit further off track but the essentials are constant)

carbs are stored with water in your body, so on a carb restricted diet, much of the initial drastic weightloss is due to a reduction in water weight, (not fat loss).

The best and most maintainable way is balance. your body needs carbs to survive, choose better carbs and space them out throughout the day. I have read some studies that have said that eating your carbs more in the morning and afternoon is best, but that is debateable.

Look up the glycemic index - basically it is a measure of how fast food gets digested and turned into sugar for your body to use. refined carbs and "bad carbs" get digested faster, turn to sugar faster, cause spikes in blood sugar levels and can create a "high" "low" situation where you crash in the low periods and this causes cravings. The "good" carbs digest slower and more evenly, not creating spikes in blood sugar and diminsihing cravings. essentailly you feel fuller longer. things like brown rice, whole wheats, etc.....

do not limit your carbs or eliminate them, rather just pick better ones and watch portion sizes, it is easy to get carried away with pasta portions for example. space them out throughout the day.

and try something different as a substitue every once in a while for a change. instead of rice, cook up some quinoia, instead of mashed potatoes, try using cauliflower to replace some or all of the potatoes (sounds weird but look it up) or mix in some sweet potato with your mashed potatoes. there are options so your not having rice, potatoes or pasta at every dinner you just have to have an open mind and be willing to try something new.
Edited by diaryoffatdad On March 29, 2011 7:03 AM
March 29, 2011 7:12 AM
Carbs are great! Y would u give them cut off time? Yea maybe u lose weight but ur body will suffer in the long run, I feel ive lost pretty good weight fast and I eat carbs even when im sleeping!...
April 2, 2011 4:41 AM
Thanks everyone! I currently do use quinoa, bulgur wheat, etc. as replacements for rice at times, but the cauliflower/mashed potato swap is genius. :) Everyone pretty much confirmed my suspicions - it may make you lose weight at first, but once you no longer maintain the low carb thing you'll gain it back!
April 2, 2011 4:43 AM
If you do try it, you won't lose weight because of the time of the day, but because you cut out an entire type of food.
April 2, 2011 5:07 AM
I tried that before. Eating only carbs for breakfast, protein and carbs for lunch and just protein for dinner. Just lost a little bit. Didn't work for me. I feel only satisfied and full for a longer time, when I eat protein and carbs together. Someone said that before and it is so true. You have to be able to eat this the rest for your life and with some diets (like Atkins, South Beach etc.....) it is just not possible.
April 2, 2011 7:01 AM
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With any "diet" especially a low carb diet, you will gain the weight back, it is not sustainable.


Sorry, but I have to disagree with this statement, to an extent.....especially the not sustainable part.

When I first began my weight loss journey, my doctor sent me to a dietician. Basically she told me to do these three things: 1. Watch my portion size (I did buy a kitchen scale), 2. Keep my total "carbs" to under 15 (15 grams of carbohydrates = 1 carb --this is the guideline I went by when reading labels), and 3. Write down everything I eat (KEY to my weight loss I'm sure, as it made me think about if I really was hungry or was eating out of boredom).

In all honesty? I thought she was a quack and that "that" would never work. Well.....almost five years and 60 pounds later, I'd have to say, not only did it work....it IS sustainable. I initially lost 72, gained back twenty just through getting a little lazy, and am now working on taking 5-10 more off again. Because I was probably too light at my lowest weight, I'm good with not being quite that low now. And I'm happy whenever the scale is under 140 these days at 5'6" and 51 years of age. I walk anywhere from 25-35 miles a week, either outside or on my treadmill.

Does that mean I've gone back to my bad eating habits? Only occasionally. If I have something special going on, I'll indulge....but then the next day or after that weekend, I get back on track and keep walking and watching what I eat. I'm a big believer in breakfast now (which I never ate before). I write down what I eat....I track my walking....and I'm keeping the weight off. wink

Kaye
Edited by kbanzhaf On April 2, 2011 7:02 AM
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April 2, 2011 7:14 AM
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Cutting carbs would work for losing weight fast but in my openion it is not realistic and not sustainable. I tried the South Beach diet and I lost the weight but when I started adding the carbs back I regained more than I lost. My advice is to do by avoiding fast food and processed food , and eating more vegies and fruits. Good luck!


Yes I agree, but it is because people have to remember low carb is a lifestyle not a diet. I eat less the 100g of carbs a day but I also eat no grains, if anyone really wants to know the truth watch fat head documentary and research it.
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April 2, 2011 10:35 AM
I do not understand, why people think, that carbs are so so bad. There is so much information out now. Yes, there are bad carbs (chips, chocolate, anything with refined sugar....) and good carbs (whole grain, brown rice, fruits, vegetables, whole grain bread etc....) The body needs carbs, but the good ones. It is that easy. And who wants to eat just cheese and meat the rest of his life. Some people don't even eat potatoes anymore because they are so scared of carbs. Just don't eat the greasy french fries and instead a whole cooked potatoe.
April 2, 2011 10:42 AM
After starting my diet I realized that all I had heard about not eating after a certain time was all lies. I eat dinner pretty late 9:00pm and eat GOOD carbs all day long, except on days I do not workout. And I still managed to lose 60lbs! I think its more about calories and the types of food you are eating. I try and have most of my carbs earlier in the day but that does not mean not being able to eat any after 3pm ;-) My dinner always includes veggies and thats at least 20g of carbs
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April 2, 2011 10:45 AM
Cutting carbs is a good way to lose weight really quick for say a special event, but the problem is it is very unhealthy and you will most likely gain the weight back really fast when you start incorporating carbs into your diet again. Your body breaks down fats, carbs and proteins at different rates so the secret to staying full throughout the day is having a ratio of roughly 15%fat 50%carbs 35%protein with every meal. Ofcourse this is hard to do all the time, but I wouldnt cut carbs completely out of one meal. A calorie is a calorie...as long as you have a deficit by the end of the day you will lose weight. flowerforyou
April 2, 2011 11:04 AM
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almost none maintain the weightloss because it is not realistic.

I eat low carb and I've kept my weight off for 2 years. I love eating like this and don't find it particularly unrealistic at all. My body thrives on protein.

Studies show that people with significant weight to lose almost all gain it back by 2-5 years no matter how they lost it. There is no study that shows people who lose weight with low carbs gain it back more or faster.

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carbs are stored with water in your body, so on a carb restricted diet, much of the initial drastic weightloss is due to a reduction in water weight, (not fat loss).

That's true of ALL diets. We get a quick 5-10 lb. weight loss in the first week because we use up the glycogen in our muscles and the water it takes to store it.

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your body needs carbs to survive,

Actually, there are no essential carbs. There are essential amino acids (protein) and essential fatty acids (fat) but everything carbs give us can be manufactured in the body from other sources.

That said, I wouldn't make some arbitrary rule about when to eat anything including carbs and I wouldn't try to eat *no* carb as that's impossible unless all you eat is meat and eggs. Vegetables are great for you and have carbs as do nuts, dairy, fruit, etc.

But I do think that our modern sedentary lifestyle requires a diet higher in protein and lower in carbs than our ancestors ate. We don't need the quick energy that carbs gives us when we're sitting at a desk in an office. A more sustaining type of energy such as provided by protein and fats is better as it will keep us full longer.
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April 2, 2011 11:08 AM
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And who wants to eat just cheese and meat the rest of his life.

Cheese has carbs. laugh

I agree about potatoes, btw. They are a vegetable! Yes, they are a starchy one but still they have lots of good nutrients in them. When people tell me they cut out "all white carbs" including potatoes, I ask them if they eat cauliflower and point out that it is a white carb as well.
  159717
April 11, 2011 5:20 PM
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And who wants to eat just cheese and meat the rest of his life.

Cheese has carbs. laugh

I agree about potatoes, btw. They are a vegetable! Yes, they are a starchy one but still they have lots of good nutrients in them. When people tell me they cut out "all white carbs" including potatoes, I ask them if they eat cauliflower and point out that it is a white carb as well.


I did not realize that cheese was considered a carb also.
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April 11, 2011 5:26 PM
It's not considered a carb but it does have them. Mostly, though, cheese has FAT! laugh

For example, a slice of American cheese has 3 g of protein, 1 g of carbs and 5 g of fat! But people think of cheese as a protein food even though more than 50% of it is fat.

Oh and people think of milk as a protein food and it has a lot of carbs. So does most yogurt.
  159717
April 11, 2011 6:06 PM
do you ever get bloated with carbs, i look like i am 4 moths preg, when i eat pasta maybe i have an allergy to it, any suggestion
April 12, 2011 5:32 AM
Atkins Diet is a strikt protein diet, and you can eat cheese all the time, so the carb is superlow. Most food contain carb, but I think its about the insulin, why some carbs are bad and some are good. About the potatoe, I read somewhere, that you are suppose to let the potatoe cool down after cooking, then heat up again. This way it doesnt push the insulin so high in the body.
April 12, 2011 5:38 AM
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A good friend of mine incorporated this rule in early January and has lost a lot of weight. I was wondering if anyone else has tried this.
Also, would the results be the same if you only eat carbs with one meal, for example just have pasta at dinner time but no other carbs throughout the day? It would be dificult for me to cut out pasta, rice, etc., after 3 PM because those are staples in my husband and my dinners. Any advice or tips would be most appreciated!!!


It worked for her not because there was anything magical about the timing, but rather because it reduced her overall carbs for the day. If you want to have your carbs at dinner, go right ahead!
April 13, 2011 4:25 AM
I looked back over the past week - eating as I normally do, I've had between 65 and 190 carbs a day. It sounds like everyone agrees that the best thing is to include all food groups, but maybe just watch the amount of carbs and make sure I am also getting enough protein and good fats. Thanks, everyone, for your posts!!! :)
April 13, 2011 4:33 AM
I do not agree with cutting out any food groups so the Atkins way fo thinking has never appealed to me....

I have a moderate amount of carbs with every meal and have consistantly lost weight.

Granted I now tend to opt for 'better' carbs - like wholemeal pasta / bread and new potaotes as oppossed to roast / mashed potat. I also wiegh my carbs as I find it easy to overdo my portion size (I love carbs!)
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April 13, 2011 4:45 AM
The timing of the carbs isn't important.

60 carbs for the whole day spread out evenly would be the same as 60 carbs all eaten at dinner time.
April 13, 2011 4:46 AM
MARIATRI I also have problems with bloating when I eat anything that is starchy. It gives me un upset stomach and lots of cramping. So as good as whole grains might be for you I have to stay away from them. My dietian said to try and get at least 75- 100 grams of carbs a day. I find that just with my fruits and veggies I am able to do that most days;. I can't even eat potoatoes. But for you if it only happens with things with wheat gluten you might try to stay away from anything that has gluten for several weeks and see if it helps. Bloating is certainly one of the signs of a gluten intolorance. Hope this helps.
Edited by helthymom6 On April 13, 2011 4:47 AM

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