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March 26, 2011 7:03 AM
Ok, so the trainer at the gym said that I should not eat carbs after 2:00...REALLY??? I love a beer with dinner and all the other things. Can anyone help me with this..give me some suggestions???
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March 26, 2011 7:05 AM
I've heard the same thing.......Bump!
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March 26, 2011 7:05 AM
In a perfect word maybe, that's just not realistic!
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March 26, 2011 7:07 AM
I think that's a little ridiculous. I'm no professional "trainer" or anything else having to do with weight loss. HOWEVER... I HAVE lost 30 pounds since January 1st of this year and I can pretty much guarantee you that not only have I had carbs after 2, sometimes I've had them after 6! ....and by sometimes I mean every day with dinner because bread is my favorite.
March 26, 2011 7:07 AM
I've heard that your body processes carbs more efficiently in the morning, so it's "carbs in the a.m., protein in the p.m.". however, although you should avoid carb-loading in the evening, it seems silly to suggest you should swear them off completely after 2. just don't go nuts on them, later in the day!

(and, of course, I always eat a snack like an apple or a banana after a workout in the evening, and i don't think there are any adverse effects...!!!)
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March 26, 2011 7:08 AM
idk about all these silly rules. None have i ever paid any attention to- with the exception of stop eating 2 hours before bed.

I've lost 75lbs, (i update mpf tomorrow) and i have eaten whatever i wanted as long as it was with in my calorie range.

Thats what worked for me though
  801111
March 26, 2011 7:08 AM
Your trainer is bad. Find a new one.
March 26, 2011 7:08 AM
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Your trainer is bad. Find a new one.


lol i second this...makes me giggle.
March 26, 2011 7:09 AM
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I've heard that your body processes carbs more efficiently in the morning, so it's "carbs in the a.m., protein in the p.m.".


Where did you hear this? I can't imagine any scientific basis for that conclusion...
March 26, 2011 7:09 AM
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Your trainer is bad. Find a new one.


hahahhaa i like this idea
March 26, 2011 7:11 AM
irrational carb haters do my head in!! Did s/he happen to explain WHY?? Or is this just another myth, like the Atkins, that will be proven wrong??

There are millions of people losing weight eating carbs all day long. FACT! Just dont eat more than you burn!

good luck flowerforyou
March 26, 2011 7:11 AM
I work graveyard so my hours for eating is abnormal and haven't had issues losing weight. I echo the sentiment of getting a new trainer.
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March 26, 2011 7:11 AM
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Your trainer is bad. Find a new one.


hahahhaa i like this idea


laugh Agreed! laugh
March 26, 2011 7:11 AM
Perhaps in a perfect world we'd all look the way we want and weigh what we want- but we don't or we wouldn't be on here. So there are sacrifices to make for what we want. Like giving up wine (one of my sacrifices) and carbs and sweets and maybe other alcohol till we get something closely resembling what we want. Then add it back 2-3 nights a week instead of 7 ?? (just an example) smile
March 26, 2011 7:12 AM
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Ok, so the trainer at the gym said that I should not eat carbs after 2:00...REALLY??? I love a beer with dinner and all the other things. Can anyone help me with this..give me some suggestions???


Eat your carbs whenever you feel like it.

My guess is that his thinking is something like this:

-Most of us go into a mild state of ketosis overnight, because when we are asleep we aren't eating, hence not supplying the body with a steady stream of carbs. In the absence of carbs the body burns mostly fat (that's what ketosis is).

-He probably thinks that he can get you into ketosis earlier in the day by having your restrict carbs after 2PM.

I don't think he's right. You're either eating low carb or you're not.
March 26, 2011 7:12 AM
When losing weight there is an obvious need to reduce energy intake but once the diet is established it’s quite possible to go above the number of estimated calories needed to lose weight. To try to compensate for these occasional “off days” we could try eating meals at a time when the energy would be more likely used effectively to replace nutritional needs and less risk that excess energy will be placed on the hips as fat. So when would be the best time to eat foods?

Some experts say the best time to eat food is when we feel hungry as this is the natural way our body is telling us we require nutrients or energy. The problem is some people always feel hungry and nibbling on high-energy foods is partly the reason a few of us became overweight in the first place.

I believe the best time to consume energy is when the body is at its most active, a time when the metabolism is elevated or when there is a need for extra nutrition. Perhaps the first instance should be in the morning, starting with a good breakfast. Remember while asleep the body has had no nutritional supply for up to ten hours so cells are ready to effectively use up the energy from food. Also, the body needs it’s supply of essential nutrients in the morning, especially protein, because excess or circulating proteins have been used up to help recover muscles, hair, skin, nails or to create millions of antibodies to defend against bacteria which may have entered the body during sleep. This means extra energy will be used to help replace the protein lost.



There is more chance the body will use up all the energy for muscular nutrition if a good meal is eaten in the morning, as everyone wakes up at different times its impossible to determine an actual time when breakfast should be consumed, for this reason the guide should be within an hour of waking.

Another good time to eat is after exercise. I always have my biggest meal of the day about 30-45 minutes after a weight training session. During this time enzymes responsible for energy production are most active and energy-storing hormones within the blood are suppressed. This means there will be less chance energy will be stored as fat. Carbs will be immediately taken up to replenish the low glycogen stores caused through exercising, the protein will be needed to aid recovery and growth of new calorie-burning muscle tissue and most of the fat from the meal will be needed to fuel many of these reactions. After a good workout most meals are likely to be utilized completely for recovery.

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March 26, 2011 7:16 AM
I tend to eat protein after working out in the AM and I don't really pay too much attention to carbs...you DO need them.
I work beer and pasta in but not daily...I'd say your trainer is a little over the top. Maybe that practice will get you the quickest results but it isn't really a practical lifestyle change.
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March 26, 2011 7:17 AM
I mean that is if giving up carbs after 2pm works for you- I have also read the same thing. Its called the 17 day diet and was featured on Dr Phil. The dr who wrote the book says no carbs after 2pm. Proteins and non starchy vegetables after 2pm only. From what I understood reading the book its not that carbs are BAD after 2pm, its just that the slow your weightloss down. Protein and veggies after 2pm sped it up. But I'm sure everyone is different.
March 26, 2011 7:17 AM
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irrational carb haters do my head in!! Did s/he happen to explain WHY?? Or is this just another myth, like the Atkins, that will be proven wrong??

There are millions of people losing weight eating carbs all day long. FACT! Just dont eat more than you burn!

good luck flowerforyou


Umm, Atkins is not a myth and it definitely has not been proven wrong. Sounds like someone needs to do some research...............


To the original poster: Unless you are going to eat only meat after 2:00 PM there is no way to avoid carbs. Nuts, fruits, veggies and of course grains, bread, etc all have carbs.

I am an avid low carber and this is not good advice from your trainer. I would suggest healthier carbs such as veggies and fruit later in the day eating the bread, grains and such for breakfast and lunch so they are burned off and not able to be stored later.
March 26, 2011 7:19 AM
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I mean that is if giving up carbs after 2pm works for you- I have also read the same thing. Its called the 17 day diet and was featured on Dr Phil. The dr who wrote the book says no carbs after 2pm. Proteins and non starchy vegetables after 2pm only. From what I understood reading the book its not that carbs are BAD after 2pm, its just that the slow your weightloss down. Protein and veggies after 2pm sped it up. But I'm sure everyone is different.


Non-starchy veggies contain carbs, so its not like you are consuming NO carbs after 2pm. This is where the 17 Day Diet is a marketed scheme.............................Your still eating carbs!!!

Vegetables contain carbs
Fruit contains carbs
Nuts contain carbs
Grains, beans, legumes all contain carbs
March 26, 2011 7:20 AM
I don't know if you should cut them out completely, but I would stick to a certain allotment each day and try to eat the non starchy carbs after 2 pm. I eat about 100-120 grams of carbs per day all coming from green vegetables or fruit, no potatos. I think your trainers mentatlity makes some sense. Your body can't burn the carbs off when your sleeping or less active, so limit them later on in the day. Those carbs that don't get burnt can get stored as fat. Check out the documentary Fathead, it's pretty eye opening at how messed up our government is when it comes to nutrition. I new the US govt was messed up, but I didn't realize to what extent when it comes to nutrition. Granted I am overweight by more than 100 lbs, but I have been following the nutritional plan that was given to me by my weight loss center and am down close to 55 lbs in 10 weeks.
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March 26, 2011 7:30 AM
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I mean that is if giving up carbs after 2pm works for you- I have also read the same thing. Its called the 17 day diet and was featured on Dr Phil. The dr who wrote the book says no carbs after 2pm. Proteins and non starchy vegetables after 2pm only. From what I understood reading the book its not that carbs are BAD after 2pm, its just that the slow your weightloss down. Protein and veggies after 2pm sped it up. But I'm sure everyone is different.


Again, does anyone remember the scientific explanation, or just that some talking head on TV said "don't eat carbs after 2pm, helps weightloss?"

Carbs are an essential part of everyone's diet. As a basic primer, let me explain:

Our bodies derive energy from three macronutrients; carbohydrates, fat, and protein. Now, fats and protein have many uses other than providing energy, whereas carbohydrates do not. The constituent amino acids in protein are the fundamental building blocks of our living tissues, used to create and repair literally everything in our bodies. Fat plays a role in our endocrine system, among other things, and is essential to dissolving fat soluble compounds in our bodies. Carbohydrates do one thing; provide our machine with an efficient source of energy.

When our body needs energy, it needs it most commonly in the form of glucose or glycogen (particular molecular forms of "carbohydrates"). Our bodies are FAR more efficient at converting carbohydrates into glucose or glycogen than they are at converting protein or fat to the same. If you don't eat any carbohydrates (atkins) you are denying your body the energy source that it has adapted to best use; you are slowing it down. If you are a couch potato and drink a lot of caffeine, then perhaps this wont bother you very much, but honestly, EVERYONE is far better off eating carbs and working exercise into their health plan.

So the Atkins diet and other carb-restrictive diets just seem like bad-science. Why would you deprive yourself of something that your body not only needs, but has evolved for aeons to use efficiently? So many people lose weight while staying healthy without the use of these carb-restrictive diets. What makes you think you are different than them?
March 26, 2011 7:35 AM
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Your body can't burn the carbs off when your sleeping or less active, so limit them later on in the day. Those carbs that don't get burnt can get stored as fat.


False. Your body burns carbs regardless of whether you are sleeping, waking, running a marathon. The ratio at which it burns carbs, to fat, to protein varies of course, but it's just plain false that your body can't burn carbs if you aren't doing something.

By way of example, did you know that you burn hundreds of calories while sleeping for 8 hours? Where do those calories come from? If you ate carbohydrates RIGHT before falling asleep, it would still burn the carbohydrates.
March 26, 2011 7:40 AM
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I mean that is if giving up carbs after 2pm works for you- I have also read the same thing. Its called the 17 day diet and was featured on Dr Phil. The dr who wrote the book says no carbs after 2pm. Proteins and non starchy vegetables after 2pm only. From what I understood reading the book its not that carbs are BAD after 2pm, its just that the slow your weightloss down. Protein and veggies after 2pm sped it up. But I'm sure everyone is different.


Again, does anyone remember the scientific explanation, or just that some talking head on TV said "don't eat carbs after 2pm, helps weightloss?"

Carbs are an essential part of everyone's diet. As a basic primer, let me explain:

Our bodies derive energy from three macronutrients; carbohydrates, fat, and protein. Now, fats and protein have many uses other than providing energy, whereas carbohydrates do not. The constituent amino acids in protein are the fundamental building blocks of our living tissues, used to create and repair literally everything in our bodies. Fat plays a role in our endocrine system, among other things, and is essential to dissolving fat soluble compounds in our bodies. Carbohydrates do one thing; provide our machine with an efficient source of energy.

When our body needs energy, it needs it most commonly in the form of glucose or glycogen (particular molecular forms of "carbohydrates"). Our bodies are FAR more efficient at converting carbohydrates into glucose or glycogen than they are at converting protein or fat to the same. If you don't eat any carbohydrates (atkins) you are denying your body the energy source that it has adapted to best use; you are slowing it down. If you are a couch potato and drink a lot of caffeine, then perhaps this wont bother you very much, but honestly, EVERYONE is far better off eating carbs and working exercise into their health plan.

So the Atkins diet and other carb-restrictive diets just seem like bad-science. Why would you deprive yourself of something that your body not only needs, but has evolved for aeons to use efficiently? So many people lose weight while staying healthy without the use of these carb-restrictive diets. What makes you think you are different than them?


The theory behind low-carb eating is that we have become efficient processors of non-fiber carbs because they are toxic to the body. Not because we need them. The body is just trying to get rid of them as quickly as possible.

Carbs spike insulin. Every time the cells are exposed to insulin, they become a little more resistant to it (especially if you are inactive). As you become insulin-resistant, every system in your body suffers and ages.

These eating plans work well for weight loss because in the absence of carbs, you're mainly going to burn fat. They are tough to adopt as a lifestyle because our culture is so carb-focused.
March 26, 2011 7:41 AM
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Your body can't burn the carbs off when your sleeping or less active, so limit them later on in the day. Those carbs that don't get burnt can get stored as fat.


False. Your body burns carbs regardless of whether you are sleeping, waking, running a marathon. The ratio at which it burns carbs, to fat, to protein varies of course, but it's just plain false that your body can't burn carbs if you aren't doing something.

By way of example, did you know that you burn hundreds of calories while sleeping for 8 hours? Where do those calories come from? If you ate carbohydrates RIGHT before falling asleep, it would still burn the carbohydrates.


Almost. There is a cap on how much glycogen you can store at once. Once that is surpassed, the remainder of the carbs are stored as fat. Your body will run on carbs until the stores are gone, then switch to a combination of running on fat and (*gasp*) muscle. The only way to avoid this is continuously consume carbs (thus the every 3 hour rule) or switch to a ketogenic state where your body shifts to looking for fat first instead of as an alternative source.
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