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January 13, 2011 2:43 PM
I was wondering if anyone knows of a connectionbetween carb intake and increased pain. I have a considerable amount of pain all the time, mostly joints...knees, hips, ankles, and such. I have been cutting back on carbs, with yesterday being very low and I felt pretty good all day and slept pain free last night. I do get fairly regular exercise by pushing through the pain but am tired of living on ibuprofin & tylenol....it is so bad for a body. Help please!!cry
  3579006
January 13, 2011 2:44 PM
Have you talked to your doctor about this?
  1997823
January 13, 2011 2:47 PM
QUOTE:

Have you talked to your doctor about this?


That's what I was thinking.
January 13, 2011 2:55 PM
I don't know about carbs but I saw something about gluten and sugar and since my body is filled with pain as well, I'm seriously thinking about it.
January 13, 2011 2:56 PM
I had heard something about processed carbs causing an inflammatory response in the body. Inflammation = pain. Or, in my case, edema. I digress... I'm not sure about whole grains. I can get by with eating small amounts of whole grains as well as legumes, yogurt, and fruit. It's certainly worth looking into.Research it. In the mean time, if cutting carbs helps, I say go for it. No sense in hurting.
January 13, 2011 2:58 PM
I agree that you should probably talk to your dr. BUT, yes, excess carbs can cause inflammation in many parts of your body. I'm not an expert but I have been seeing a nutritionist and have followed a primal eating plan for 6 months and feel I have learned alot. Primal is low-carb by default b/c you cut out all things processed, including bread and pasta and refined sugars... low-carb, clean foods, high healthy fat and lean protein and lots of fruits and veggies, nuts and no chemicals. I have never felt better and I'm down over 50 lbs! Last winter I had a bad bout of tendonitis in my foot and underwent 4 months of therapy. I also had headaches and other pain, all of which are gone now. Good luck to you!
  153205
January 13, 2011 3:00 PM
Yep, Humans were never designed to run on carbs as a main fuel that is why you get the inflamatory bloated feeling after eating carbs... Read "The Primal Blueprint" for more info.
January 13, 2011 3:30 PM
Great feedback ~ Thank you!!
  3579006
January 13, 2011 3:34 PM
And yes I have spoken with docs about it, have been suffering with pain for years (10+) and their suggestion is always physical therapy, which even after about 4 months I feel worse. I had one doc scribe a pain med that made me completely sick...I don't have a lot of faith in medical advice any more...Back to the basics, we are designed a certain way and our current lifestyles and eating habits are not part of the original design. For now I just do research ( my new best friend), chiropractic care, and exercise...as much as I can stand :)
  3579006
January 13, 2011 3:44 PM
yes! when i eat too many carbs (over 120 or so grams), my body is in pain. if i keep my carbs reasonable (around 100 grams), i am pain-free. good luck experimenting with what will make you feel the best!
January 13, 2011 3:58 PM
YOu might want to look at the book UltraMetabolism by Dr. Mark Hyman and look into the issue of processed carbohydrates and inflammation.
  2710687
January 13, 2011 3:59 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Have you talked to your doctor about this?


That's what I was thinking.


The problem is that most doctors will try to prescribe something She should look for a naturopath or a doctor who specializes in functional medicine
  2710687
January 13, 2011 4:04 PM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Have you talked to your doctor about this?


That's what I was thinking.


The problem is that most doctors will try to prescribe something She should look for a naturopath or a doctor who specializes in functional medicine


Agree that she needs to be a strong advocate for herself with the doc to make sure unnecessary meds are not prescribed. The symptoms she describes could be many things, some of which she might want to get treated for immediately (e.g. rheumatoid arthritis, fibromyalgia, etc.) Since she has been working with a doctor, these hopefully have been ruled out and it is safe for her to try going low-carb to see if that helps. The level of pain she is describing is decidedly not normal (not even for me, and I have rheumatoid arthritis), and it isn't something that should ONLY have the attention of a group of strangers on the internet. Sounds like she is covered.
  1997823
January 13, 2011 4:19 PM
Without knowing how many carbs you are getting per day. It could be your body getting ready to go into ketosis which is the mild fat burning stage in which your body burns fat. My carbs are under between 80-85 gm a day the first 5 days of getting there are tough, but after that it in an energy blast off.. And the first week I lost 9 lbs. During that first 5 days headaches and fatigue and general aches and pains are expected.. If you not sure I would see a physcian Medications ie anti inflammatories can actually cause you to retain fluid as well.. Drink at a minumum of 4 extra 8 oz cup of H20 when taking those medicaions. Hope you find some answers but more importanly some relief.

Laurie
  3542673
January 13, 2011 4:29 PM
If your carbs are wheat based or have gluten in them there could definitely be a connection. Have you been tested for celiac disease? Celiac has many indicators of inflammation on the same scale as lupus and rhumatoid arthritis. When my so gets wheat exposed, we notice it first in his leg cramps and bones/body aching.

You may also try a yeast or parasite cleanse.
January 13, 2011 5:00 PM
Thanks again all....Great info here!!
  3579006
June 19, 2013 10:40 AM
I cut gluten out 2 weeks ago..my chronic joint pain is better!! And I switched hubby's diet and he just commented on it the other day his neck doesnt hurt as bad. My stomach pains are gone too and i'm more regular..if you catch my drift. All that gluten and carb cant be good for us...its in everything..sometimes ketchup etc..to thicken things.
June 19, 2013 10:42 AM
QUOTE:

I was wondering if anyone knows of a connectionbetween carb intake and increased pain. I have a considerable amount of pain all the time, mostly joints...knees, hips, ankles, and such. I have been cutting back on carbs, with yesterday being very low and I felt pretty good all day and slept pain free last night. I do get fairly regular exercise by pushing through the pain but am tired of living on ibuprofin & tylenol....it is so bad for a body. Help please!!cry


I have significant joint pain when I eat a lot of wheat.

Maybe it's not carbs in general (which you do need.), but the types of carbs being ingested.
June 19, 2013 10:44 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Have you talked to your doctor about this?


That's what I was thinking.


The problem is that most doctors will try to prescribe something She should look for a naturopath or a doctor who specializes in functional medicine


LMAO, naturopaths? Why not go for something evidence based vs naturopathic voodoo?
June 19, 2013 10:45 AM
Processed carbs yes.. msg causes joint pain. You could have a gluten intolerance as well, I've heard people with gluten intolerance of pain.. so breads, pasta's, etc. Anything with wheat. High acid foods can cause joint pain as well.. like red meat, pork, even chicken at times.
  16845029
June 19, 2013 10:46 AM
I agree that not carbs themselves are the problem, but possibly you have gluten problems or problems with certain sugars. It's worth a trip to the doctor to see if there's something to it.
June 19, 2013 10:47 AM
QUOTE:

I was wondering if anyone knows of a connectionbetween carb intake and increased pain. I have a considerable amount of pain all the time, mostly joints...knees, hips, ankles, and such. I have been cutting back on carbs, with yesterday being very low and I felt pretty good all day and slept pain free last night. I do get fairly regular exercise by pushing through the pain but am tired of living on ibuprofin & tylenol....it is so bad for a body. Help please!!cry


I discovered the same thing a few months ago. I stopped eating gluten and my joint pain went away. I've had 5 knee surgeries from sports injuries and my doctors all said my pain was just normal, I have arthritis, deal with it or take pain killers all the time. Ugh.

I had been totally grain free for a while but then had a few days where I ate something with gluten and my knees swelled up visibly and all the pain came back in my knees and hips. Cut the gluten out again and it's gone in a few days.

Needless to say, I'm off the gluten permanently now. I had no idea that it would cause joint inflammation - I figured that if I was sensitive to gluten it would give me gastro-intestinal symptoms, which I've never had. But it can affect you in different ways.

Right now I'm in the middle of an anti-inflammatory diet where we cut out most potential allergens/things that would cause sensitivities and I'm adding things back one at a time to see what else bothers me. So far just gluten and quinoa (which just makes me bloat).

Anyway, for me it's not the carbs - I can eat boatloads of veggies and even a good amount of fruit - it's grains/gluten that cause the joint pain.
  17486723
June 19, 2013 10:47 AM
It depends... people say because I have a pain disorder (Fibromyalgia) I should have no sugar and no carbs... ha! I've done low carb and no processed sugar and I felt the same -

please check with a doctor. Test for celiacs (gluten allergy). I just had mine done and am negative.

ETA: Also if it's only in the joints get you AN titer tested - it may be rhumatory arthritis, or some sort of arthritis. Just an idea, if you're going to get blood work done anyways!
Edited by michellechawner On June 19, 2013 10:49 AM
  10629641
June 19, 2013 10:49 AM
Over the last 9-10 years, I have learned that msg, sugars, and gluten increase my experience of pain. Sugar is an inflammatory agent so it would stand to reason that it would exacerbate any arthritis that you may have.

But I still eat lots of carbs! I would not advocate cutting all carbs out. Try taking out one thing at a time so that you can ID the real culrpit(s)
  6687236
June 19, 2013 10:49 AM
QUOTE:

QUOTE:

QUOTE:

Have you talked to your doctor about this?


That's what I was thinking.


The problem is that most doctors will try to prescribe something She should look for a naturopath or a doctor who specializes in functional medicine


Dafuq?
  12837362

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