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August 31, 2010 3:54 PM
Well then I'm doing something wrong because it's running for me.

I bring this up because I have to put in "very, very brisk walking" as my cardio on my run days, but I AM running at 4.5. Actually I am running at 4.7mph for most of my run, but that isn't an option. It's 4.5 or 5.

Any chance the "middle mileages" can be added in?? And maybe just have it "moving" at the mph? I feel so accomplished when I'm at the gym, then I get home, enter it in here, and feel so bad because this site doesn't think I'm running at 4.5mph. :(
  1904152
August 31, 2010 3:59 PM
I would suggest getting a heart rate monitor- one with a strap not just a watch you will get a more accurate calories burned, and be able to enter in your own work outs.
  801111
August 31, 2010 4:04 PM
That sounds like a jog rather than a run. I would say 6 mph is running?
  1155981
August 31, 2010 4:08 PM
Well, to me it's running. Not fast, but it's definitely not a walk.

The site doesn't classify ANYTHING as "jogging".

The monitor is in theory a good idea...but I hate things strapped to me. :(
  1904152
August 31, 2010 4:09 PM
I'm with you on this one! Walking ends at 4 for me!
August 31, 2010 4:13 PM
You won't even know the strap is there!
  1000196
August 31, 2010 4:14 PM
Don't let it get you down! I think that when you're in that area, you can choose to run or walk. For instance, I can walk 5mph, but I frequently choose to jog it because it's easier on my shins. The only difference, I think (don't count on me with this) is the impact level.

So, you keep running and don't let the site tell you otherwise!
August 31, 2010 4:14 PM
I mean, if they'd classify it as "jogging" until 5 or 5.5mph (I've actually seen in running books that 5 is truly considered running as both feet leave the ground...though running books don't really specify between running and jogging in terms of technique), that would be fine!

Also having it at all the increments would be awesome.

Oh well.
  1904152
August 31, 2010 5:18 PM
QUOTE:

I mean, if they'd classify it as "jogging" until 5 or 5.5mph (I've actually seen in running books that 5 is truly considered running as both feet leave the ground...though running books don't really specify between running and jogging in terms of technique), that would be fine!

Also having it at all the increments would be awesome.

Oh well.


In my mind "jogging" implies a leisurely pace. I'm not a fast runner, but when I'm out there pounding the pavement, there is nothing leisurely about it.
August 31, 2010 6:05 PM
erm...

doesn't both feet leaving the ground constitute...

jumping jacks?

laugh

Mirii
August 31, 2010 6:58 PM
I think when they say both feet leaving the ground they mean as opposed to when you're walking and pick up a foot as the other goes down. When I'm up at 4.7-5mph I do notice that there is a split second where both feet are off the ground, so I get what they're saying. :)
  1904152
August 31, 2010 7:07 PM
It could very well be an individual thing as well .. When i first started on the treadmill, I used to walk at 3mph and then up to 4-5 doing fast walk. Now I can walk really fast at 5mph, but when I up the speed to 5.5, I do a slow jog. Once I build my endurance, I would go higher than this. So I look at it as a phase. You can create your own exercise, and login the calories accordingly, right?
  289746
August 31, 2010 7:14 PM
I ignore the labels :) Running at 5.2 mph on the treadmill feels fast for me. I try to not let it intimidate me since I figure that everyone has a comfortable "leg moving" speed and mine just happens to be slower.
  1697728
August 31, 2010 7:23 PM
Running or walking the body mechanics are different. Pace is an individual thing especially when first starting out....if you go to fast you risk injury. I don't think for me I could ever walk at a 5 mph pace that is too fast for walking but I can run it for a bit. When I first started "running or jogging" 4 mph was really hard...now it seems to easy. Yes it would be nice for MFP's data base to cover everything for everyone but that seems impossible. Just be happy knowing you are getting your body up and moving. And yes if you want a more accurate calorie burn that is more specific to you, you need to get and HRM with a chest strap. Mine is so comfortable I forget to take it off sometimes. Get out there keep moving don't worry about the data base here! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!
  160056
August 31, 2010 7:35 PM
I totally agree with you. It seems this site thinks you have to go at least 5mph before its considered running. I "run" at 4mph now (up from 3.2 at the beginning of the year). I use my heart rate monitor so I know what I'm burning and put my own description in.
  1143027
August 31, 2010 10:16 PM
I just came accross the same problem! I was on a treadmill doing a jog at 4.5 mph, but couldn't log it! I am only 5'3" so I think it has to be more of a jog for those of us who don't have legs long enough to walk that. There's no way that I could walk it, my hips and shins would take a huge beating! It's much easier to pick my fee off the ground. I got a cheap hr monitor from walmart just to give me a general idea. I wish that it had a chest strap so that it was more accurate, but it gives me an idea of where I am. I jsut did my best to clock it on my wrist and entered the exercise manually! :) Hope you keep joggin!!!
September 1, 2010 11:22 AM
I had the same concern. I just went online and found a calorie calculator for my bmi with the mpr and time. It workes fine, so I log it as that. I can't run 6mph for an extended time, but I can do 4.5-5.5 happily for 45 min, I work up a great burn!
  1634769
September 1, 2010 11:25 AM
I went by a sports store on my way to the gym today and got a HRM, so starting tomorrow I can have more accurate and personalized counts! (I had to do my run early and didn't have the chance to read up on my monitor before I did my run.) AND make my exercise say what I want it to for the description! :)
  1904152
September 1, 2010 11:31 AM
I know what you mean about short legs! If i walk with my husband, I take 3 steps to his 2. And when my son was visiting we went for a walk and he's tall and long legged and I was doing 4 steps to his 2! His was just a leisurely pace while I was really working. Idefinitely think I was burning more calories than he was.
September 1, 2010 8:49 PM
The fastest I can walk on the treadmill is 4.3. At 4.5 I am walking/trotting. I usually bump up the speed the 6.5 so I can run.
September 1, 2010 9:10 PM
I have noticed if I am going between walking and running on a TM (don't usually use them, but I was in PT/rehab for a year with a running injury and running slower than usual, which is saying something 'cause I am NOT FAST), that it says there is a huge difference in calories burned between 4.5 and like 4.8. I don't know if that is just the machine assuming that at 4.5 you are walking not running, or if there is really some general intensity line between the two. It will be interesting to see what your HRM says--I have a feeling it has much more to do with how hard an effort 4.5 miles feels to you than how fast you are actually going. I personally cannot run at 4.5 miles per hour--that is definitely a walk for me--but I have fairly long legs so that probably makes a difference. Let us know what you find!

p.s. I think running and jogging is more about what word is in vogue rather than some mph distinction. Everyone I know who runs thinks of themselves as runners, even at 12-minute miles. "Jogging" is so 1979.
  1064797
September 1, 2010 10:06 PM
I run at 4.5 mph. I am short, I have short legs and a short torso. I think that has a lot to do with it. I take shorter steps so naturally I have to run a little bit slower. If I put it up to 6.0mph like some people it looks like I am running to get away from something instead of working out. Don't feel bad about it or anything :)
  1428378
September 1, 2010 11:00 PM
I do think it is totally down to the individual - I am not massively tall, but I'm not short either but to me 4mph would still be walking and 5mph would be a fast walk - it only takes us 15 minutes to walk from one end of the village to the other which is one mile xxx
September 1, 2010 11:05 PM
This is walking for me, i am not allowed to run or jog for medical reasons due to a neck injury and i can walk at 5.8 mph on the treadmill without breaking into a jog (albeit a very fast walk)

I too wear a HRM - i couldnt live without it now, i think everyone should have one they are brilliant.

Also you can add exercise manually into the database smile
  71771
September 1, 2010 11:14 PM
QUOTE:

Well then I'm doing something wrong because it's running for me.

I bring this up because I have to put in "very, very brisk walking" as my cardio on my run days, but I AM running at 4.5. Actually I am running at 4.7mph for most of my run, but that isn't an option. It's 4.5 or 5.

Any chance the "middle mileages" can be added in?? And maybe just have it "moving" at the mph? I feel so accomplished when I'm at the gym, then I get home, enter it in here, and feel so bad because this site doesn't think I'm running at 4.5mph. :(
Might it be easier if you add in your own workout and not go by something preset in the site? drinker

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