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August 18, 2010 11:10 PM

So before I even begin this, I just want you all to know that I am NOT on the Ideal Protein diet. Not that I don't think it works, because as you will see later i my venting, it does in fact work. But what I am mostly disliking about Ideal Protein (and other Diets with Major Calorie restriction and "you have to buy our food rules" ) is the fact that these type of diets can blind those individuals who are on them from the principals of good old fashioned weight loss. They blind you from learning how to eat right and getting the proper exercise to make your body function how it is supposed to.

So, now on to my story. I went to visit my In-laws today. Actually I went to help my mom in law do the flowers for my brother in law's up coming wedding. Anywho, she and my father in law have both recently lost a ton of weight (38 pounds and 45 pounds) using the Ideal Protein method of dieting. The thing is, they have lost of of this weight, and now they have this mentality that the only way to lose weight is by using Ideal Protein. I feel that they lost the weight in somewhat of an unhealthy way. They were losing 4-7 pounds a week, and eating MAYBE 900 calories a day. My question was: "what will happen when you add back in the rest of your food?" they can't live for forever on only 900 calories.

Now from my understanding, they slowly and gradually add back in healthy carbohydrates until they are up to 1200 ish calories a day. This I can understand. I think that it is great that they have lost a ton of weight at the cost of $100 per person per week for food.

However, i was talking with my Father in Law, (he is worse than my mom in law about this) and he asked me "so how much weight are you losing a week on your exercise and eating plan?". I told him that i was averaging 1 to 2 pounds a week. And he goes, "Oh, yeah..i see...hmmm...well..... You could possibly reach your weight loss goal in about a year at that rate. We lost all of our weight in about 2-3 months on the Ideal Protein. I have never lost weight like this in my life. I tried every other diet, and this one is the only one that works can always exercise after you have lost all the weight to get the toning you want....."""

GRRRRRR I don't know why I am so irritated by this, but just irritated me so much! Probably because he acts like this every time that i mention weight loss. Now I want to lose weight in the way that I am, A HEALTHY WAY just to stinking prove to him that it can be done. And that when I am done, and at the maintaining phase, that I wont have to worry about toning up the lose skin on my body because I HAVE BEEN EXERCISING the ENTIRE TIME! Gosh, was that harsh!?

GRRRRRR......I am sometimes WAY to tactful! I should have told him "Well this time next year when I have lost all of MY weight and you have gained all of your weight back, then we will see who's plan is the healthiest. And not to mention, I only spend $80 a month on a gym membership, and you are spending $800 a month on food that you can't possibly afford for forever..."

But and my nice sweetness did not say this, I simply smiled and said, well, I like what I am doing. I am glad that you like what you are doing. ....


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August 18, 2010 11:36 PM
Mmmmm, yeah! that doesn't sound healthy at all. It could all backfire once they get tired of not eating!!! or if they get sick for not taking care of their bodies' needs.

It's great that they lost all that weight and they feel happy about it, but it's pretty crappy that they are putting down your decision to lose weight in a slower but more permanent and healthy way. I hate when people are close minded and won't respect when others do things differently than them... no need to be jerks about it.

Sorry to hear about this and feel free to keep venting! we understand!!!

Oh, and I love how you're using this as motivation to stick with your program! You can do this and you will look way better than them when you reach your goal!!! :-)
August 19, 2010 1:11 AM
How frustrating! I think you did the right thing, though, by giving a neutral answer. In the long run, it'll be obvious that you've made the right choice. Maybe you shouldn't mention weight loss to them anymore? Although it sounds like they're so excited about their diet that they're talking about it, too. Whatever they do, you keep up the good work and be healthy.
August 19, 2010 1:31 AM
history has shown us that yoyo and super restricitve dieting ruins your insides and metabolism. Don't sweat it! You are not DIETING you are establishing a new healthy lifestyle. channel the frustration into more energy at the gym. Works for me!
August 19, 2010 2:47 AM
Well done for keeping your cool. Maybe next time just say you're really glad that Ideal Protein worked for them, that you hope they can keep the weight off but you don't think such a restrictive approach is realistic for you personally to maintain and that your mission is about being healthy as much as its about being slimmer and as such you want to establish habits that will contribute to you r long term well being..
Edited by lucifa73 On August 19, 2010 2:48 AM
August 19, 2010 10:38 AM
Good job staying sweet and venting here. When I stay sweet to others I tend to vent on my poor family.

I understand your frustration. A friend of mine is doing the HCG diet and lost 18# in 3 weeks, she said none of the weight loss was from exercise because she had no energy to do anything. I understand everyone's different but for me it is more important to actively spend and enjoy everyday and not be rushing to lose weight. Slow, steady and permanent weight a healthy way. You seem to have a good, realistic attitude. We aren't looking to be skinny for today, we are looking to be healthy for a lifetime!
August 19, 2010 10:55 AM
Kudos to you! Being sweet is always the best defense :)
I personally dont see how its healthy or beneficial to do any diet where you loose massive pounds and dont exercise. Who says the pounds they are losing isnt vital muscle tissue? And I dont even want to think about where all that loose skin is going!! You are doing it the right way and you will be the one in the end with the best results....besides they are squandering away your inheritance! LOLOL!
August 19, 2010 12:11 PM
LOL! NO joke about the squandering!

And thank you all for your motivation! I am glad I vented here. I try not to vent to my hubby about his family and visa versa. We just get offended at each other offense....Does that even make sense!


Thanks everyone!
August 13, 2012 4:59 AM
I am a former Ideal Protein customer. I tried it for food sensitivty reasons (no wheat and dairy on it) and figured if I lost weight in the process, what could the harm be? Well - here was the harm: First, they suggested I stop exercising. This seemed to dumb to me. By the time the thing was over, I was "out of the habit" of exercising. Me - a regular exerciser! But I got out of the exercise habit. Now, a year later, I am not exercising. I am now getting back into it. My guess is they want you to experience the water weight loss from the plan? Not sure. Second: the buying food. This is not real life. This might be helpful if your doctor has told you to get out of pre diabetic range - and fast - and then is going to monitor you as you transition to normal food. While - in fairness - they are willing to transition you through all the phases back to "normal food" - the extremes of their plan too closely mimic an eating disorder with the calorie restrictions. I have had a problem with that in the past. It's not even part of the intake, I don't think. Either way, I don't want to model this for my daughters. Having tried a lot of different plans, I WAS a subscriber to the moderation, exercise, eat healthy plan. I should ave listened to myself and my doc who did not want me in this more than 2 weeks. I just like to feel more empowered and independent with something so central to my lfe.
Edited by Leone7 On August 13, 2012 5:10 AM
August 13, 2012 5:14 AM
Wow that's just a bit condescending.... next time tell him you prefer to work off the weight because it gives you a sense of achievement.
August 13, 2012 6:48 AM
UGH! I looked at Ideal Protein - I don't have a lot of weight to lose (lost 35lbs, kept it off, want to lose another ~15-20 but was lacking motivation) Its a very popular program here and I've met quite a few people who are on it or have been on it to varying degrees of success. I was very tempted by the speed factor!

Two things turned me off - No carrots and no exercise. I'm sorry, I get that you have to restrict carbs if you want keytosis, but it was like she was telling me carrots were the worst thing you could eat! Limiting veggie intake (ONLY 4 cups/day she told me!) just seems ridiculous to me. And STOP exercising?? WTF??? I'm no maniac but I get seriously depressed if I don't exercise at all.

I walked out of there feeling that where I'm at now is pretty healthy, and its not worth sacrificing the health gains I've made in order to look better in a dress. Maybe for someone who was sedentary and whose weight was a serious impediment to their health it might be worthwhile, but to imply that it is the only way to lose weight is insane.

But to defend your FIL, he's probably feeling good, and when someone feels good they want EVERYONE to feel good, and share their joy. He probably perceives your journey as a struggle that he has lived in the past, and in these 5 minutes he thinks that IP is the end of his struggles. Just make sure he knows that you're feeling good doing what you're doing, and that its not a struggle or a diet but a process to living healthier. Focus on celebrating each others loss ... and bring him over here when he's off IP and at risk of gaining all the weight back!!
August 14, 2012 6:50 PM
You are so sweet A_Shannigans...but I am the one to blame! My doctor did not put me on it. He was not crazy about it but I went on it anyway because it had no wheat or dairy and I thought it was a good way to test food sensitivity issues I was having easily. So much for the easy route! But, you are right that the sense of being able to do something myself is a habit I can take with me, versus something someone is doing for me.
Edited by Leone7 On August 14, 2012 6:51 PM
August 21, 2012 11:01 PM
Hi all, I just want to clear up a few misconceptions that have popped up on here about Ideal Protein.

Yes, my wife and I are on this diet. We are used to different lifestyles, with respect to physical activity. She is quite sedentary, hates veggies and loves carbs, while I work out regularly (though i have dropped off recently), and am not a picky eater. We both started this diet hoping to lose some pounds, and we've found a way to make it work, despite our different levels of exercise.

As to the misconceptions, first the 900 cal/day intake is only in the first phase of the plan. Even though this sounds drastically low, the make-up of the food is such that it switches the body's metabolism to fat-burning mode (aka ketosis) through cutting carb intake. protein intake is increased in ideal doses so as to prevent loss of muscle mass. we did not experience weakness or loss of energy because each pound of fat your body burns in ketosis provides 3500kcal of energy, which more than makes up for the 900 cal of food. second, though we were told that exercise is not a necessity in phase 1, it can still be done, one just has to compensate by increasing the protein intake.

It is also true that the latter stages of the plan features phasing out for the sole purpose of returning your body to a normal metabolism, and a normal balanced diet. Of course, there are people out there who fall back on old habits and gain weight back, but that is more because of the individual, rather than the diet.

That said, there are still a lot of diets out there, and we feel that it is up to each person to find the way that works best for them. So if that way involves good old fashioned exercise, then more power to you, and to all of us who share this same goal of a healthier lifestyle.
February 7, 2013 5:53 PM
I have been in the ideal protein diet for 5 weeks. I look and FEEL better than I have since having my sons. My advice to anyone who thinks it is unhealthy is to actually go talk to one of their educated coaches. It retrains your body to process sugars the proper way after decades of sugar/carb overdose. You can eat healthy and exercise all you want but if your body isn't doing what it is supposed to, it won't help. Losing weight is unnatural in any form. It isn't what your body likes to do. I have already experienced numerous noticeable benefits other than the weight loss. I sleep better, my hormones are balanced, I have stopped needing my Zoloft and didn't even have to wean off it, my complexion is clear, I'm not bloated, no more afternoon slump where I would grab caffeine to get through the sleepiness... You can't tell me those aren't signs of better health. And it isn't just a diet, you meet with a coach every week and gain an education about healthy eating for when you reach the maintenance phase. I am loving it all and this is the best thing I have ever done for myself! Finally taking care of me! Anyway, please learn more about it before you bash it. Do what works for you, and let others do what works for them.
February 7, 2013 5:58 PM
Sounds like when my in-laws did HCG. They're a huge family and they all did it. Now they think it's the only way to lose weight even though it didn't work for the long term. I just try not to talk weight loss with them. When they asked what I had done to lose and keep mine off I told them, but they said it sounded too restrictive. huh
February 7, 2013 6:00 PM
Hmm supporters have 1 post each. Seems legit.
February 7, 2013 6:02 PM
Tell him what I tell people: "Diets are for the stupid or nutritionally uneducated." That, and/or call him small. All the time.

Look on people's faces is priceless.
February 7, 2013 6:11 PM
I totally agree! My mom is on Ideal Protein and it totally works, but it is really pricey and the whole "hafta buy our food" made me say no thanks. The problem is any sort of "positive change" will also work, you don't have to give in to the corporate buy mode.

Might I suggest the "4hr Body" by Tim Ferriss, great read, with real food. From a grocery store! who would of thought.
February 19, 2013 1:05 PM
I lost 90 lbs the healthy whole foods balanced way using this site and just like any diet or healthy living program, I gained 45 back when I let life get the better of me and strayed, but I gained it very fast and easy. I am now doing Ideal Protein because I firmly believe after being over 100 lbs over weight for over a decade I definitely suffer from insulin resistance which Ideal Protein is designed to reverse. Insulin resistance causes any carb intake to spike insulin and increase cravings and fat storing. I am on this diet to get a handle on that, but I am conscious of my future healthy eating plan and working with my counselor to include exercise while on this program because I know even if it slows down the movement on the scale on such a diet it will have far greater benefits in the long run and it makes me feel good.

All diets fail in the long run when you don't learn and adopt permanent healthy habits, ALL. It is not always the program or tool, but the person and the choices responsible for failure or success. A successful weight loss and maintenance program is one well matched to your issues, concerns, life style and needs. In my case I think Ideal Protein addresses my needs but it is my responsibility to follow the plan, adopt a healthy lifestyle and most importantly stick to it for the long haul in order to succeed.

I have lost 27 lbs and 34 inches in 7 weeks on Ideal Protein. I am doing well on the scale but exceptionally well by the tape measure. It is expensive, but if I can over come my body's desperate need for carbs, sugar and holding onto its fat stores it will be worth every penny.
February 26, 2013 11:31 AM
Ideal Protein is the BEST diet EVER and I am a firm believer in it's science!
March 18, 2013 9:14 PM
Does your Ideal Protein Coach make you buy a whole box of the same food or can you buy one from each box?
March 18, 2013 9:23 PM
A close friend and her hubby both were on Ideal Protein last year and want to try it again. They lost 35+ lbs each in a short period of time, however with the restrictions they stopped quickly because they COULDNT live. Her and I have always had weight issues and she was askng me how I dropped 2 sizes ( in 2012 prior to my joining MFP) and I told her I got a trainier.. got a nutirtion plan and changed my life. She was kind of offended but she went from a size 24 down to a 20 and now up to a 26 after leaving Ideal protein.

It may work for some but its not a safe way to lose weight nor can you expect it to be a lifestyle change. You're welcome to vent to any of us anytime!
March 26, 2013 10:29 AM
Trucking along into my second week on Ideal Protein. I am getting sick of salad and vegetables. I have been forcing myself to eat the lunch veggies and salad. If I am not hungry can I at least skip the lettuce?
March 26, 2013 4:04 PM
Sure, you can skip the lettuce but there sure is a lot of water in that stuff. I hear you, salads get a little old. I've been experimenting with Walden Farms salad dressings and mayo. I also make sure my salads have some protein on them (chicken, ham, egg)
April 6, 2013 5:55 PM

Trucking along into my second week on Ideal Protein. I am getting sick of salad and vegetables. I have been forcing myself to eat the lunch veggies and salad. If I am not hungry can I at least skip the lettuce?

Chocolate drink
1 tsp oil
2 cups baby spinish
Blend (magic bullet)

Done. Veggie intake for meal complete. HTH :)
Edited by DanDee33 On April 6, 2013 5:56 PM

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