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June 23, 2013 6:25 PM
Started about 2 weeks ago - lost about 4 lbs... sounds good right? Except I've lost 10lbs before in the same time-frame using low carb + 0 exercise.

My total net calories is 1500 - with majority carbs
My average Cardio burns on my workouts 4x a week = around 1000 calories burned

Conclusion: High carb freakin sucks - im gonna cut out carbs except an hour before run - why do I keep falling for these lies that you can lose weight fast while eating carbs - they're all freakin lies.
June 23, 2013 6:28 PM
It could be that you've got less than 10 lbs to go if you're ticker is accurate. Were you at the same point when you lost last time? If you're eating your daily calorie goal including your burned calories my guess would be it's the dreaded close to goal slow down.
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June 23, 2013 6:29 PM
I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....
  12269569
June 23, 2013 6:30 PM
oh no I still have at least 30 lbs to go... I just tried to do it the "healthy" way by incorporating running this time compared to no exercise before but I didn't limit carbs cuz I know that I need them to run well. I regained about 8 lbs and restarted 2 weeks ago - so its not a slow down - high carbs just sucks for fast weight loss!
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It could be that you've got less than 10 lbs to go if you're ticker is accurate. Were you at the same point when you lost last time? If you're eating your daily calorie goal including your burned calories my guess would be it's the dreaded close to goal slow down.
June 23, 2013 6:31 PM
I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
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I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....
June 23, 2013 6:35 PM
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I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
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I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....



Again what is the point with this whole speed concept....... Why the big hurry.... My point is slow and steady still wins the race... I don't care that it has been 4 years to lose 300+ lbs. because this is the rest of my life and I certainly am in no hurry to speed that process up....
  12269569
June 23, 2013 6:39 PM
There are various reasons to have a short time-table - special events, proving someone that its possible, $$$$, beach! I still know that cardio is helpful for losing weight - Im gonna see if I can get away with just eating 30 g an our before my runs and not eating any the rest of the day.

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I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
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I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....



Again what is the point with this whole speed concept....... Why the big hurry.... My point is slow and steady still wins the race... I don't care that it has been 4 years to lose 300+ lbs. because this is the rest of my life and I certainly am in no hurry to speed that process up....
June 23, 2013 6:44 PM
In this day and age, SPEED is everything to people. Lots of people don't WANT to wait, they want everything now.

I mean, it would be nice if I can snap my fingers and be 115lbs, but I know I gotta give it time. I should have it in a year, so far, I am loving it... Just gonna hate this winter... Winter just sucks, man :(
  45357597
June 23, 2013 6:48 PM
You drop 10 lbs quick with low carb because you deplete your glycogen stores in your body. Glycogen requires water to be stored which adds weight. You will also put it on as quick once carbs are reintroduced. It's not fat loss it's playing with water stores.
One of many reasons why scale weight isn't the most accurate reflection of progress.


ETA - I don't understand why it's all or nothing. Aside from the whole water thing, if high carb doesn't work, why not try lower instead of cutting out completely (obviously not completely but you know what I mean).
Edited by 3dogsrunning On June 23, 2013 6:51 PM
June 23, 2013 7:02 PM
Good luck.
  20607316
June 23, 2013 7:05 PM
I bet a guy $20 - nuff said.
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In this day and age, SPEED is everything to people. Lots of people don't WANT to wait, they want everything now.

I mean, it would be nice if I can snap my fingers and be 115lbs, but I know I gotta give it time. I should have it in a year, so far, I am loving it... Just gonna hate this winter... Winter just sucks, man :(
June 23, 2013 7:06 PM
Nah - I also lost 3% body when I lost those 15lbs - I measured with calipers. Even if a lot of it is water weight, it still looks better not to have the carb bloat. Im just gonna cut carbs down to 30 and only right before my run - cuz seriously the amount of weight loss is miniscule compared to how much effort I put into the running.
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You drop 10 lbs quick with low carb because you deplete your glycogen stores in your body. Glycogen requires water to be stored which adds weight. You will also put it on as quick once carbs are reintroduced. It's not fat loss it's playing with water stores.
One of many reasons why scale weight isn't the most accurate reflection of progress.


ETA - I don't understand why it's all or nothing. Aside from the whole water thing, if high carb doesn't work, why not try lower instead of cutting out completely (obviously not completely but you know what I mean).
June 23, 2013 7:13 PM
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Nah - I also lost 3% body when I lost those 15lbs - I measured with calipers. Even if a lot of it is water weight, it still looks better not to have the carb bloat. Im just gonna cut carbs down to 30 and only right before my run - cuz seriously the amount of weight loss is miniscule compared to how much effort I put into the running.
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You drop 10 lbs quick with low carb because you deplete your glycogen stores in your body. Glycogen requires water to be stored which adds weight. You will also put it on as quick once carbs are reintroduced. It's not fat loss it's playing with water stores.
One of many reasons why scale weight isn't the most accurate reflection of progress.


ETA - I don't understand why it's all or nothing. Aside from the whole water thing, if high carb doesn't work, why not try lower instead of cutting out completely (obviously not completely but you know what I mean).



And calipers aren't very accurate.

By all means go ahead. I thought this was a legit question, my mistake.
June 23, 2013 7:16 PM
So you guys are trying to say that low carb doesn't work the best for fast fat-loss?
June 23, 2013 7:20 PM
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I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
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I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....



I don't agree at all that if you want/need to cut weight that you need to cut carbs severely. I have been doing this for about 4 months and have lost 35 lbs (majority of it being in the first 3 months). Not once did I cut down on my carbs, at all. I am probably a bit of a carb-aholic. I started out with lots of cardio, but for the past 6 weeks, I have been weight lifting (heavy) about 5-6 times/week and doing cardio about 2 times/week.

Seems like you aren't giving whatever it is your doing long enough to know if it really works. Usually takes a month or so for our bodies to regulate in order to really know if a method is working or not. Either way, good luck!
  37547972
June 23, 2013 7:26 PM
How many carbs were you eating daily?
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I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
QUOTE:

I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....



I don't agree at all that if you want/need to cut weight that you need to cut carbs severely. I have been doing this for about 4 months and have lost 35 lbs (majority of it being in the first 3 months). Not once did I cut down on my carbs, at all. I am probably a bit of a carb-aholic. I started out with lots of cardio, but for the past 6 weeks, I have been weight lifting (heavy) about 5-6 times/week and doing cardio about 2 times/week.

Seems like you aren't giving whatever it is your doing long enough to know if it really works. Usually takes a month or so for our bodies to regulate in order to really know if a method is working or not. Either way, good luck!
June 23, 2013 7:33 PM
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Started about 2 weeks ago - lost about 4 lbs... sounds good right? Except I've lost 10lbs before in the same time-frame using low carb + 0 exercise.

My total net calories is 1500 - with majority carbs
My average Cardio burns on my workouts 4x a week = around 1000 calories burned

Conclusion: High carb freakin sucks - im gonna cut out carbs except an hour before run - why do I keep falling for these lies that you can lose weight fast while eating carbs - they're all freakin lies.


You lose tons of weight fast with low carb because it's mostly water weight. It's not magic.
June 23, 2013 8:00 PM
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How many carbs were you eating daily?
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I'm just coming from my experiences with low carb - where I lost 10 lbs within the first 2 weeks and 5 in the 3rd week without even exercising once... I know cardio is healthy but seriously if you want/need to cut weight in a decent fast time you gotta cut the carbs severely.
QUOTE:

I've ate no less than 240 grams of Carbs starting out 4 years ago and am currently eating around 400 grams a day and gotta say it hasn't hindered my weightloss and why do we need to put a time table on it.... Isn't this a lifestyle thing...... Best of Luck....



I don't agree at all that if you want/need to cut weight that you need to cut carbs severely. I have been doing this for about 4 months and have lost 35 lbs (majority of it being in the first 3 months). Not once did I cut down on my carbs, at all. I am probably a bit of a carb-aholic. I started out with lots of cardio, but for the past 6 weeks, I have been weight lifting (heavy) about 5-6 times/week and doing cardio about 2 times/week.

Seems like you aren't giving whatever it is your doing long enough to know if it really works. Usually takes a month or so for our bodies to regulate in order to really know if a method is working or not. Either way, good luck!



No less than 250 grams 99% of the time. And on the one or two days that I didn't hit 250, I was still over 215 grams (according to the report I looked at for the last 90 days). It seems as though since I've upped my protein (between 110g and 140g) my carbs have stayed steady between 240-260-ish.
  37547972
June 23, 2013 9:03 PM
I agree with the earlier poster about the initial loss being your glycogen stores. I'm a runner and I like to keep my carbs at about 45-50% of my calories. For me low carb is just not sustainable and leaves me feeling drained. And when I've done it in the past, as soon as I added carbs back in, the weight went back up. This article was posted on the boards once and I really liked how glycogen/carbs/water retention was explained.

http://www.justinowings.com/understanding-bodyweight-and-glycogen-de/
June 23, 2013 9:13 PM
Fine one more week - im averaging 250-350 right now of my first week and am making good running progress (up to 3.3 miles, half uphill) - if I dont lose at least 5 lbs this week carbs are bye bye
June 24, 2013 6:21 AM
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Fine one more week - im averaging 250-350 right now of my first week and am making good running progress (up to 3.3 miles, half uphill) - if I dont lose at least 5 lbs this week carbs are bye bye


AT LEAST 5 lbs. in one week?! You are setting yourself up for failure. It seems like you want to say be able to say, "Ah ha! I'm right! Carbs are the devil!" Well, I'm out at this point, good luck on your carb-less journey.
  37547972
June 24, 2013 6:42 AM
You're burining 1000 calories running 3.3 miles? huh

ETA: Did you mean total per week or per run?
Edited by LeanButNotMean44 On June 24, 2013 6:43 AM
June 24, 2013 6:47 AM
Unless you are carrying alot of fat you will be losing muscle as well as fat. In perfect circumstance, the human body can only burn 32 cals from each pound of fat in 24 hours. This means you will need to be carrying MORE than 80lbs of fat to lose 5lbs in a week. This is why larger people initially can lose more weight quickly.
How much do you weigh and what is your Fat%
June 24, 2013 6:55 AM
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Fine one more week - im averaging 250-350 right now of my first week and am making good running progress (up to 3.3 miles, half uphill) - if I dont lose at least 5 lbs this week carbs are bye bye


AT LEAST 5 lbs. in one week?! You are setting yourself up for failure. It seems like you want to say be able to say, "Ah ha! I'm right! Carbs are the devil!" Well, I'm out at this point, good luck on your carb-less journey.


This! You've gotten excellent advice from KTS and Ed. Personally, to me someone who's lost lost over 300 pounds is worth listening to.

I lost almost 50 pounds and have maintained my goal weight for a year now by eating about 250 grams of carbs per day.

I sincerely wish you well.
  9566339
June 24, 2013 6:59 AM
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Started about 2 weeks ago - lost about 4 lbs... sounds good right? Except I've lost 10lbs before in the same time-frame using low carb + 0 exercise.

My total net calories is 1500 - with majority carbs
My average Cardio burns on my workouts 4x a week = around 1000 calories burned

Conclusion: High carb freakin sucks - im gonna cut out carbs except an hour before run - why do I keep falling for these lies that you can lose weight fast while eating carbs - they're all freakin lies.


I'm not sure why you posted this. You have already decided that you want to win a bet. I'll continue to eat all the carbs I want because they are delicious and I'm not stupid enough to bet on weight loss. This is no race and I like enjoying my food. Have fun gaining back your water weight when you have a binge. I'm going to eat high carb so I can lift heavier weights and run longer miles. I'm pretty sure one packet of GU has over 20g of carbs. That would almost be my entire daily carbs allotment because I needed some fuel on a long run. Yeah, no thanks.
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