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June 6, 2013 6:03 PM
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Don't I get a cookie for explaining it better?? HAHA! j/k


Nope you stole my thunder. angry


laugh Just kidding. Swirling chocolate for you.



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Thank you!, and I'm not logging this!
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June 7, 2013 4:53 AM
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so maybe this is a stupid question, but I'm a bit stumped as to how to gauge the calorie content for foods with a lot of liquid.

and no, I don't mean soups etc, I mean foods in which you do not consume the liquid.

for example, bean salad.
I don't eat or drink the liquid, so If i weigh it, should I weigh it after and subtract the liquid weight? Or is this already done in the calorie counters?

or even better, marinated cucumber salad.
I make my own, with a large cucumber, onions, vinegar, and sugar.
Now I'm sure someone will say "add it to the recipe counter"

but no, If you add it as a recipe you are counting the huge amount of calories for the 1/4 cup sugar that goes in.
sure, some of that you consume, so you cannot log the salad as a cucumber, but surely you don't consume the entire caloric value of the sugar if you throw out all the liquid after eating the cucumber.


does this make sense to anyone?

has anyone found a solution to it?

thanks!


Most entries in the food database are user input...if you can't get an appropriate estimate for your homemade dish...why do you think other users can?
June 7, 2013 10:56 AM
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What I do when I marinate chicken is to put the marinade in the recipe builder and then weigh it before I put the chicken in, and again after. As far as the number of servings I go by 1 serving as 100 grams. So if it makes 153 grams I put in that it makes 1.53 servings. Then if I weigh it and discover that I only used 102 grams and threw out the other 51, I can just enter 1.02 servings.


better than most replies, but I still do not think that would be accurate, as what you are consuming is not an amalgamation of all the parts, which is what your method implies.

I just ignore the marinade when I make chicken breasts, but now you've added another variable to my list!


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June 7, 2013 11:00 AM
being over paranoid isn't good.
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June 7, 2013 11:04 AM
Hey guise look what I found! Any ideas what I can put this in?!

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June 7, 2013 11:06 AM
Stop and think about it for a second ... at worst you are over tracking calories by tracking the sugar, but calories are not an exact science and losing weight is not as simple as calories in vs. calories out. So when you track food just make sure you track consistently, use the same scale, use the same ingredients when you build a recipe, because just like a heart rate monitor is a educated guess as to what your calories burned are, so is tracking your food. What you call a small cucumber might be a large cucumber by caloric count, and you could be off 20 calories, so just stay consistent, and honest. And just because you don't drink the juice doesn't mean that some of the sugar or all of the sugar isn't soaked into your salad, so why try to cut it down to such a uncontrollable portion, just track it eat, and solider on.
June 7, 2013 11:07 AM
OK so here goes my real answer...OSMOSIS.

Weigh the marinade before you put the cucumbers in it.

Weigh the marinade after you fish out the cucumbers out.

IF there is a difference of weight you will know how much the cucumbers absorbed and then whenever you eat .2 of the recipe's amount of cucumbers, you can divide the marinade ingredients by .2 and know how much marinade you consumed.

Your welcome for both the giant cucumber and the answer to your question. p.s. PM me if you don't know what to do with a cucumber that big. Your summer salads should take care of it, but if not and you want some suggestions I'd be happy to send you some in PM's complete with gif's. :cucumberflowerforyou:




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Edited by MyChocolateDiet On June 7, 2013 11:10 AM
June 7, 2013 11:10 AM
Guesstimating is the only option I can think of. I'd log only a fraction of the sugar in the cucumber salad. Maybe 1 Tbs, then the solid stuff you eat and divide into servings. Nothing is ever exact anyway. Just get as close as you can.
June 7, 2013 11:11 AM
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Guesstimating is the only option I can think of. I'd log only a fraction of the sugar in the cucumber salad. Maybe 1 Tbs, then the solid stuff you eat and divide into servings. Nothing is ever exact anyway. Just get as close as you can.


NO! It must be exact. How dare you be so glib, rude and insulting to someone suffering from the 'zactly disease.
June 7, 2013 11:19 AM
*looks left, looks right* no sign of OP she may have lost interest in this thread....soooooooo..........


Other ideas:
measure it?
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accept it?
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eyeball it?
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cucumberhenge..become one with the cucumber?
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listen to it?
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Edited by MyChocolateDiet On June 7, 2013 11:24 AM
June 7, 2013 11:23 AM
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thanks, but does not solve my dilemma.
if I log the 1/4 cup sugar that goes into the marinade that's 194 calories.
I'm not actually CONSUMING them, only SOME of them.

I want to know HOW to determine what is actually consumed.


Simple, then:

- Enter a recipe for the marinade only
- Weigh the marinade separately.
- add your cucumbers (or whatever)
- eat the cucumbers.
- weigh the remaining liquid.
- log the cucumbers
- log the value from (Liquid(pre) - Liquid(post))

also .. don't forget to weigh your fork and bowl before and after so you can determine how much residue was left on them. Also, weigh the marination container before and after to account for residue in there too.
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June 7, 2013 11:24 AM
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Legitimate question here, OP: how do you log the calorie count on prepackaged food, should you choose to eat it? I ask because those listed calories are estimates, and suggestions in-thread that you estimate would lead one to believe that "estimating" is insufficiently exact for your personal peace of mind.


Sorry if this was already said, (didn't go through the last several pages) but in the U.S., prepackaged foods are allowed to be up to 20% off in caloric estimations (either over or under...guess which one they do more). Does it upset me that this is allowed...heck yes, but all we can do is estimate, so decide what sounds best and estimate away.
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June 7, 2013 11:26 AM
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Legitimate question here, OP: how do you log the calorie count on prepackaged food, should you choose to eat it? I ask because those listed calories are estimates, and suggestions in-thread that you estimate would lead one to believe that "estimating" is insufficiently exact for your personal peace of mind.


Sorry if this was already said, (didn't go through the last several pages) but in the U.S., prepackaged foods are allowed to be up to 20% off in caloric estimations (either over or under...guess which one they do more). Does it upset me that this is allowed...heck yes, but all we can do is estimate, so decide what sounds best and estimate away.


You're missing out. Just sayin'.

apparently my "real answer" is so easy even a dog can do it.

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Edited by MyChocolateDiet On June 7, 2013 11:28 AM
June 7, 2013 12:00 PM
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*looks left, looks right* no sign of OP she may have lost interest in this thread....soooooooo..........


Other ideas:
measure it?
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accept it?
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eyeball it?
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cucumberhenge..become one with the cucumber?
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listen to it?
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and finally the real solution to the problem. Image not displayed


I lost interest after getting a few workable answers. The topic was more than dead, my question was sufficiently answered, and there wasn't all that much more i could say in response to all the mockery.

I admit, I'm curious now, do you maintain a database of huge vegetable photos, or did you search for them on the fly?

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