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May 28, 2013 4:04 PM
Hi,

We are looking to gather some feedback from members on a couple of specific items. This information will help us better understand how members are using certain features and will allow us to gather insights and ideas for future improvements.

1. Would timestamps in logging food be useful? If so, how would that information be helpful and what would you do with it?

2. How often do you track your net carbs? If tracking net carbs is a central focus for you, do you also closely track calories?

Thanks,
Olivia
May 28, 2013 5:36 PM
1. Automatic timestamping, not really. The -optional- ability to timestamp (and specify the time, rather than just use system time) would be potentially useful for those of us that plan meals. Especially the intermittent-fasting crowd.

2. Net carbs are a silly excuse to eat carbs and not feel guilty about it. Though, all the 'net carb' entries in the database are annoying, it would be nice to have an option of 'use net carbs' for a given diary, if for nothing more than to prevent those entries.
May 28, 2013 5:41 PM
Totally agree with GetSoda.
  21471934
May 28, 2013 5:44 PM
There is a script you can download that calculates the net carbs in your diary.
  6965061
May 28, 2013 5:48 PM
I would love the ability to time stamp although auto timestamps would be less useful because I sometimes log at the beginning or end of the day.
I would use time stamps to track trends of when I eat with my ability to workout and lose.
I don't track net carbs.
  10126217
May 28, 2013 5:50 PM
Not sure how the time stamp feature would work for me - I am one of those that eats when I'm hungry, and that varies from day to day.

Net carbs would be great on an individual basis. I agree that the net carb entries in the database are annoying. As someone who HAS to track carbs (specifically net carbs) being able to have that calculated automatically would be wonderful. And, I'm sure that others who are in similar situations (diabetics, PCOS, or those living on a ketogenic diet, might have missed a few others) may find it extremely helpful.
  17378160
May 28, 2013 5:57 PM
Neither would be of particular value to me.
May 28, 2013 5:57 PM
no and no.

further, I think the ability to track net carbs would only further muddy an already dirty topic. I think this is one if those areas where we need to follow Steve Job's lead and tell people what they want rather than giving them an option. in this case, people don't want to differentiate.
May 28, 2013 5:59 PM
I would love to see time stamping! I was just thinking about that today!
May 28, 2013 6:04 PM
Don't think either of those options would enhance the MFP experience. The database is so corrupt as is...net carbs would just add another layer of inaccurate information. I'd prefer the MFP staff take more time to clean up the food database - and not allow people to add their "Jack's chicken" who knows what that is....just clogs up the database and is not useful to anyone except Jack.
  20757594
May 28, 2013 6:04 PM
How about better, exportable reports instead of this nonsense?
May 28, 2013 6:11 PM
Personally, I don't care about timestamping and figuring net carbs isn't a big deal. People who use net carbs already have figured that out.
  12234417
May 28, 2013 6:16 PM
I like the idea of net carbs - (Atkins) - I see some foods are input that way with the word Atkins next to them - it's awesome. As far as time stamp - I don't know, I already have all my boring food logged for tomorrow.
May 28, 2013 6:20 PM
QUOTE:

Don't think either of those options would enhance the MFP experience. The database is so corrupt as is...net carbs would just add another layer of inaccurate information. I'd prefer the MFP staff take more time to clean up the food database - and not allow people to add their "Jack's chicken" who knows what that is....just clogs up the database and is not useful to anyone except Jack.


+1 I actually use net carbs, but am perfectly happy calculating them on my own. The database, on the other hand, is horribly bloated - not useless as of yet, but it's certainly annoying to wade through 20+ inaccurate listings.
  12083221
May 28, 2013 6:29 PM
Neither would interest me.
Cleaning up food database & better reporting would be great
  38491393
May 28, 2013 6:29 PM
QUOTE:

Not sure how the time stamp feature would work for me - I am one of those that eats when I'm hungry, and that varies from day to day.

Net carbs would be great on an individual basis. I agree that the net carb entries in the database are annoying. As someone who HAS to track carbs (specifically net carbs) being able to have that calculated automatically would be wonderful. And, I'm sure that others who are in similar situations (diabetics, PCOS, or those living on a ketogenic diet, might have missed a few others) may find it extremely helpful.
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^ My opinion as well. I track net carbs and I don't find them annoying, just helpful.
  33371820
May 28, 2013 6:48 PM
QUOTE:

no and no.

further, I think the ability to track net carbs would only further muddy an already dirty topic. I think this is one if those areas where we need to follow Steve Job's lead and tell people what they want rather than giving them an option. in this case, people don't want to differentiate.



I totally agree with you.
  37376170
May 28, 2013 6:51 PM
QUOTE:

Don't think either of those options would enhance the MFP experience. The database is so corrupt as is...net carbs would just add another layer of inaccurate information. I'd prefer the MFP staff take more time to clean up the food database - and not allow people to add their "Jack's chicken" who knows what that is....just clogs up the database and is not useful to anyone except Jack.



I totally agree with you that the database is so corrupt and dysfunctional that it would be better to use the time to make it more efficient. Time stamping and net carbs should not be the priority at this time when it is frustrating to select a simple banana from the numerous idiotic entries in the database.
  37376170
May 28, 2013 7:20 PM
I would not vote for either of these enhancements.
May 28, 2013 10:48 PM
I either log food as I go through the day... where time-stamps might be a vaguely interesting thing though I just log the meals in the order they're eaten regardless of time of day.. first meal is breakfast... next is lunch... even if I'm having a traditional "dinner" item for breakfast or a breakfast item for dinner, it's food... or log it all at once when I come in from work so having everything "Stamped" when I entered it would be a nuisance in that case... oh Pandorian ate ALL his food at 1145pm tonight...

And net carbs... maybe an additional column in the nutrients you track for NET CARBS by North American labelling... don't mess up your entire EU user base by changing carbs to "net carbs" which for North America is total carbs less carbs from fiber... in the EU carbs are tracked entirely separately from fiber..
north american label
carbs
sugar
fiber
(not present but since sugar and fiber don't always add up to the 'carbs' listed the remainder is "starches"
the INDENTATION on the label indicates the fiber is a subset of the carbs listing...

EU label
protein
fat
sat
poly
mono
trans
carbs
sugar
fiber...

it's its own "thing" and subtracting fiber from the carbs will give your EU user base an incorrect net value since their carbs are already effectively net.
  3335912
May 29, 2013 8:30 AM
Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share your inputs! We very much appreciate your suggestions and ideas and we are listening to the complaints we hear about the food database and are working on projects to improve the quality of our food database.
May 29, 2013 8:43 AM
bah for failing to remember that the indentations wouldn't show up just with blank spaces....

reposting just that part

north american label
carbs
*****sugar
*****fiber
(not present but since sugar and fiber don't always add up to the 'carbs' listed the remainder is "starches"
the INDENTATION on the label indicates the fiber is a subset of the carbs listing...

EU label
protein
fat
***sat
***poly
***mono
***trans
carbs
***sugar
fiber...

it's its own "thing" and subtracting fiber from the carbs will give your EU user base an incorrect net value since their carbs are already effectively net.
  3335912
May 29, 2013 8:45 AM
QUOTE:

Thanks to everyone for taking the time to share your inputs! We very much appreciate your suggestions and ideas and we are listening to the complaints we hear about the food database and are working on projects to improve the quality of our food database.


I'm just curious how you all decide which fixes/enhancements to implement and which ones to "back burner". Considering the nature of this site, I can kinda understand the net carbs thing, but time stamping diary entries? That seems so trivial in the bigger picture...
May 29, 2013 8:45 AM
Nope,

and nonsense.
  9711248
May 29, 2013 11:03 AM
A variety of different factors go into deciding which fixes and enhancements we focus on, member inputs always being an important factor. Some items to concentrate on are self evident, such as needed improvements to the food database. While other suggestions we need more information and understanding from our users to know if its something worth pursuing.
QUOTE:

I'm just curious how you all decide which fixes/enhancements to implement and which ones to "back burner". Considering the nature of this site, I can kinda understand the net carbs thing, but time stamping diary entries? That seems so trivial in the bigger picture...

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